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Posted by: Barb Meteyer ® 11/24/2002, 19:00:07 Author Profile Mail author |
Since the start of school this past August, my newly diagnosed SD-AD voice has gotten progressively worse. As a high school special education teacher who needs to lecture daily, my frustration was increasing. So I resorted to whispering while using an amplification system, and my students have become serious listeners through necessity. They are so tolerant of my 'bad' voice and prefer the whisper. Also, I now carry a laminated note card about my vocal disorder to share with those who need information from me, so that they tend to listen more carefully about the content of what I'm saying than the sound quality of it. I might additionally add, that my insurance company denied the first request from my neurologist for Botox injections. He resubmitted and the waiting game continues. |
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Posted by: Lynne Martinez ® 11/24/2002, 19:42:29 Author Profile Mail author |
Barb, Welcome to the SD bulletin board, wherein you will get a ton of support and also some answers, as to your particular issues. Lots of folks who post here have been there and done it. It would be most helpful to those of us who want to support you, if you can be specific, re location/docs/your case, etc. In Miami earlier this month, we voice-patients met a skilled SLP who also has Spasmodic Dyshonia. She doesn't have a commercial plan or a cure. But, she does have a solid program to benefit voice patients. We talked about whispering, in Miami. There are good and bad ways to whisper, evidently (if you want to take the pressure off your cords). Some techniques actually make our voices worse. Some don't. She demonstrated the ways that vocal systems are not damaged. While I watched her whisper, I could tell the difference and learned alot. I know what you mean. I'm at the point of whispering myself these days at times. Probably should, rather than do all the compensatory things to vocalize. Blowing out the vocal system is not a good thing. Good luck and if you want more info (re above and references to the SLP I mention), please write me off the BB. --Lynne (AD/SD; Northern California) |
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Posted by: sarah bayle ® 11/24/2002, 20:26:25 Author Profile Mail author |
I often practice speaking while in private and have come up with another solution which feels much more satisfying to me than whispering. Since I have been studying American Sign Language for a few years, I've come in contact with a number of Deaf folks. Most of us know, there is a voice which accompanies Deafness....Like alot of Deaf people have a similarity in the way their voice sounds. You with me? If I imitate that 'Deaf Voice'- then my vocal chords have zero spasms and no tremor. I have no idea what this is about. (I know many Deaf people, and I will tell you right now- the ones I've met would never take insult to my trying to sound "Deaf" to relieve the spasms.)They themselves are survivors! (Whispering for me does not completely alleviate the breaks, but does alleviate the tremor.) Just felt like tacking this on...... |
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Posted by: sarah bayle ® 11/24/2002, 20:30:27 Author Profile Mail author |
Barb, I forgot to ask what your laminated card says? and best of luck with the insurance coverage. Botox could be a miracle cure for you with AD/SD. Sarah |
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Posted by: Doris St. Clair ® 11/25/2002, 15:25:46 Author Profile Mail author |
Hi All, Whispering and talking on the inbreath is about the only way I can communicate these days. I hope it isn't doing any further damage. The only time I can talk normal is when I yawn, laugh or have a good botox injection. Is whispering good or bad?? Don't know but everyoe tells me they can understand me much better when I whisper. Doris St. Clair AD/SD Va
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Posted by: June Sutton ® 11/26/2002, 17:39:18 Author Profile Mail author |
I thought whispering was so much easier when I decided to give up the stangled sound way back in 1986, but, then, I lost even that. It made it all worse and I couldn't communicate at all. I couldn't even whistle. I use to love to whistle since I couldn't sing anymore. Then came Botox in '90 which gave me back some sort of voice. Of course, Botox doesn't work for me anymore, but, I did get the ability to whisper again after Botox. My doctor had always said NEVER whisper. Now, I know why. I can only speak on inhalation and hope that doesn't cause more damage, but, like Doris, that's the only way I can speak. I do catch myself whispering sometimes. I wonder what an ENT would say about speaking on inhalation. |
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Posted by: Lynne Martinez ® 11/26/2002, 18:18:01 Author Profile Mail author |
June and Doris, Yes...that would be interesting to hear what an ENT would say but it might be more likely that a Speech Language Pathologist would have something to say about whispering and speaking on inhalation. ENT's generally specialize in the structure and anything that might be wrong with it (nodes/spasms/paralysis, ad infinitum) whereas SLP's specialize in making the best of what you have, re your structure, and how to vocalize more productively. I can't address speaking on inhalation (although I know alot of fellow-SD'ers who use that as a compensatory technique) but we did get a demo of "proper whispering" (so as not to damage the vocal system) in Miami. It was very interesting. Write me on e-mail or come to the WeMove chat tonight (you know how to get there, June) and I'll give you both more info. Good luck...both of you. --Lynne |
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Posted by: Lloyd Pearson(BC) ® 11/26/2002, 19:04:32 Author Profile Mail author |
I attended an SD conference at the Callier Center for Communication Disorders in Dallas in May 1990 (pre-NSDA) and one of the presenters was SLP Susan Shulman M.S. with Dallas Center for Vocal Motor Control. She had developed various techniques and exercises to help SD patients cope more effectively with their disorder by voice therapy techniques. Susan had taught patients to phonate on inhalation rather than the natural exhilation cycle and to eventually use a combination of exhilatory speech and inhalation for relaxation. Two patients were present at the conference and the results were quite amazing and the patients were very fluent and able to carry on a normal conversation. Susan also showed videos of patients with SD, both before and after therapy and the improvement was quite dramatic. These recollections are taken from my notes at that time. Since that time I've not heard any more about this technique or about Susan Shulman. Maybe you folks living in the Dallas area can find out more if this therapy is still being taught. Lloyd Pearson(BC) Canada AD/SD |
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Posted by: micki ® 11/27/2002, 10:41:58 Author Profile Mail author |
Susan Shulman 12700 Hillcrest Suite 258 Dallas, TX 75230 This came from the Voice Foundation of America locator list. |
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Posted by: Eileen Giddings ® 12/20/2002, 17:45:29 Author Profile Mail author |
When I end up whispering, thats when I know that my voice is really bad and I should get another botox injection. But when I get the injection, i wonder if it is worth it because then I can't swallow and I have breathiness; but my voice is smoother. Good luck; I can't imagine having to talk for a living; my heart goes out to you. It sounds like you are really handling it intelligently. |
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