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Sorry to hear you've had a stroke and you suspect Botox is implicated.When two events happen at almost the same time it doesn't mean there is a causal relationship. You say "I don't know what caused the stroke" but then you say "this can happen". I got the flu once after Botox but I don't blame it on the Botox. Flu can happen, strokes can happen. Having SD and possibly taking Botox doesn't mean these are connected to other health issues which may develop anyway. I've now had Botox 37 times over a ten year period and want to put the opposite point of view - that in my opinion it is a safe and effective treatment for my SD. David
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This is so true, David. Whenever a number of people are taking the same
med. such as Botox, there are always going to be other things happen to certain of them such as strokes, illnesses, heart problems...whatever, that would've happened to them with or without the med. It's when there is a high percentage of those people get the same illness, affliction or whatever that it may become apparent that the specific med. they're all taking may be to blame. It appears to me that this is how it works. Of course I don't know a thing about Botox other than what I've learned on this board.
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I am also sorry to hear that you have suffered the effects of a stroke.Has your neurologist indicated that there is any possibility that Botox was a contributing factor to your stroke. I must admit that this is the first time that I have heard that this might be possible. As I understood things, the botox is supposed to remain localized at the injection site and does not diffuse into the blood stream - I may be wrong on that, but that is the way I understood things. If that is the case, then I'm not sure how the botox could travel from the vocal cord area to the brain. Any doctors reading this care to comment?
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I have never heard that stroke was related to actual Botulism Poisoning, so I can't see how it would be related to a minute amount injected into the cords. Botulism causes paralysis of muscle groups in the body, and can cause death, but this is in doses 1000s of times higher than the "mouse units" we get. BTW, Botox didn't work that well for me, but it does for others and brings such amazing relief that I think connections like this that may turn people away are dangerous to make. It is terrible that you had a stroke, but I truly believe the causes would have been unrelated to the Botox.
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Hi Lloyd,I'll venture a comment, although I'm just a pediatrician and not a neurologist. I don't see how the botox itself could cause a stroke. However, many strokes originate in the common carotid artery in the neck. It's theoretically possible that the act of manipulating the neck for a procedure (eg., botox injection) could dislodge a clot from the carotid artery which could then cause a stroke. Note that it would be manipulation of the neck and not the botox injection itself that would cause a stroke in this hypothesis. Regards, Ed H.
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Ed,Thank you very much for your expert opinion on this situation. As has been indicated by others on the BB, it is premature to put a causal relationship on a particular treatment when something else happens co-incidentally with that treatment. Regards, Lloyd
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Isn't it likely that there was a problem in the Carotid to begin with, though and the muscle manipulation just sped up something that would've happened anyway. Just wondering...certainly not disputing your post, it made alot of sense and great to get a physician's opininon. I haven't yet tried botox and still weighing the consequences.
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